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 Post subject: Ksywiszon "Don Jose"...
PostPosted: 2006-12-19 23:43:44
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... darl w grupie ryjka zza anonimowego nicka na nutke "w Izraelu
panuje apartheid". Drac ryjka n/y "rasizmu" i
"apartheidu", powolywal
sie na ksiazke eks-prezydenta Cartera o tym "apartheidzie" wlasnie.
Na temat powiazan Cartera znalazlem na sieci cos ciekawego, acz
niepotwierdzonego. Moze ktos z mieszkancow USA (pan Zalek na przyklad)
zechce potwierdzic albo zaprzeczyc?
____________
"Especially lucrative have been Carter's ties to Saudi Arabia. Before
his death in 2005, King Fahd was a longtime contributor to the Carter
Center and on more than one occasion contributed million-dollar
donations. In 1993 alone, the king presented Carter with a gift of $7.6
million. And the king was not the only Saudi royal to commit funds to
Carter's cause. As of 2005, the king's high-living nephew, Prince
Alwaleed Bin Talal, has donated at least $5 million to the Carter
Center.
Meanwhile the Saudi Fund for Development, the kingdom's leading loan
organization, turns up repeatedly on the center's list of supporters.
Carter has also found moneyed allies in the Bin Laden family, and in
2000 he secured a promise from ten of Osama bin Laden's brothers for
a $1 million contribution to his center. To be sure, there is no
evidence that the Bin Ladens maintain any contact with their terrorist
relation. But applying Carter's own standard, his extensive contacts
with the Saudi elite must make his views on the Middle East suspect.
High praise for Carter's work - and not inconsiderable financial
support - also comes from the United Arab Emirates. In 2001, Carter
even traveled to the country to accept the Zayed International Prize
for the Environment, named for Sheikh Zayed bin Sultan al-Nahyan, the
late UAE potentate and former president-for-life. Having claimed his
$500,000 purse, Carter enthused that the "award has special
significance for me because it is named for my personal friend, Sheikh
Zayed Bin Sultan al-Nahyan." Carter also hailed the UAE as an
"almost completely open and free society" - a surreal depiction
of a rigidly authoritarian country where the government handpicks a
select group of citizens to vote and strictly controls the editorial
content of the newspapers and where Islamic Shari'a courts judge
"sodomy" punishable by death. (To appreciate the depth of
Carter's cynicism, one need only compare his gushing encomia to the
emirates with his likening of Israel, the most modern and democratic
country in the entire Middle East, with the racist "apartheid" of
South Africa.) "
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 Post subject: Ksywiszon "Don Jose"...
PostPosted: 2006-12-20 00:06:15
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- Hide quoted text -- Show quoted text -levi...@gazeta.pl wrote:
> ... darl w grupie ryjka zza anonimowego nicka na nutke "w Izraelu
> panuje apartheid". Drac ryjka n/y "rasizmu" i
"apartheidu", powolywal
> sie na ksiazke eks-prezydenta Cartera o tym "apartheidzie"
wlasnie.
> Na temat powiazan Cartera znalazlem na sieci cos ciekawego, acz
> niepotwierdzonego. Moze ktos z mieszkancow USA (pan Zalek na przyklad)
> zechce potwierdzic albo zaprzeczyc?
> ____________
> "Especially lucrative have been Carter's ties to Saudi Arabia.
Before
> his death in 2005, King Fahd was a longtime contributor to the Carter
> Center and on more than one occasion contributed million-dollar
> donations. In 1993 alone, the king presented Carter with a gift of $7.6
> million. And the king was not the only Saudi royal to commit funds to
> Carter's cause. As of 2005, the king's high-living nephew, Prince
> Alwaleed Bin Talal, has donated at least $5 million to the Carter
> Center.
> Meanwhile the Saudi Fund for Development, the kingdom's leading loan
> organization, turns up repeatedly on the center's list of supporters.
> Carter has also found moneyed allies in the Bin Laden family, and in
> 2000 he secured a promise from ten of Osama bin Laden's brothers for
> a $1 million contribution to his center. To be sure, there is no
> evidence that the Bin Ladens maintain any contact with their terrorist
> relation. But applying Carter's own standard, his extensive contacts
> with the Saudi elite must make his views on the Middle East suspect.
> High praise for Carter's work - and not inconsiderable financial
> support - also comes from the United Arab Emirates. In 2001, Carter
> even traveled to the country to accept the Zayed International Prize
> for the Environment, named for Sheikh Zayed bin Sultan al-Nahyan, the
> late UAE potentate and former president-for-life. Having claimed his
> $500,000 purse, Carter enthused that the "award has special
> significance for me because it is named for my personal friend, Sheikh
> Zayed Bin Sultan al-Nahyan." Carter also hailed the UAE as an
> "almost completely open and free society" - a surreal depiction

> of a rigidly authoritarian country where the government handpicks a
> select group of citizens to vote and strictly controls the editorial
> content of the newspapers and where Islamic Shari'a courts judge
> "sodomy" punishable by death. (To appreciate the depth of
> Carter's cynicism, one need only compare his gushing encomia to the
> emirates with his likening of Israel, the most modern and democratic
> country in the entire Middle East, with the racist "apartheid"
of
> South Africa.) "
> ____________
> http://www.me-ontarget.com/the_daily_tidbit/p,404/

Ignoratio elenchi to kwadratu.


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 Post subject: Ksywiszon "Don Jose"...
PostPosted: 2006-12-20 01:42:43
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levi...@gazeta.pl wrote:
> ... darl w grupie ryjka zza anonimowego nicka na nutke "w Izraelu
> panuje apartheid". Drac ryjka n/y "rasizmu" i
"apartheidu", powolywal
> sie na ksiazke eks-prezydenta Cartera o tym "apartheidzie"
wlasnie.
> Na temat powiazan Cartera znalazlem na sieci cos ciekawego, acz
> niepotwierdzonego. Moze ktos z mieszkancow USA (pan Zalek na przyklad)
> zechce potwierdzic albo zaprzeczyc?
> ____________

Byla szansa, aby mu zadac to pytanie publicznie:
http://www.tpmcafe.com/blog/coffeehouse/2006/dec/17/jimmy_carter_isra...


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 Post subject: Ksywiszon "Don Jose"...
PostPosted: 2006-12-20 02:26:07
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Andrew Karts wrote:
> levi...@gazeta.pl wrote:
> > ... darl w grupie ryjka zza anonimowego nicka na nutke "w
Izraelu
> > panuje apartheid". Drac ryjka n/y "rasizmu" i
"apartheidu", powolywal
> > sie na ksiazke eks-prezydenta Cartera o tym "apartheidzie"
wlasnie.
> > Na temat powiazan Cartera znalazlem na sieci cos ciekawego, acz
> > niepotwierdzonego. Moze ktos z mieszkancow USA (pan Zalek na
przyklad)
> > zechce potwierdzic albo zaprzeczyc?
> > ____________
> Byla szansa, aby mu zadac to pytanie publicznie:
> http://www.tpmcafe.com/blog/coffeehouse/2006/dec/17/jimmy_carter_isra...

Nota bene w swojej ksiazce Carter wsrod swoich nanjblizszych przyjaciol
wymienia Ezera Wizmana.


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 Post subject: Ksywiszon "Don Jose"...
PostPosted: 2006-12-20 03:05:23
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- Hide quoted text -- Show quoted text -DonJose wrote:
> Andrew Karts wrote:
> > levi...@gazeta.pl wrote:
> > > ... darl w grupie ryjka zza anonimowego nicka na nutke "w
Izraelu
> > > panuje apartheid". Drac ryjka n/y "rasizmu" i
"apartheidu", powolywal
> > > sie na ksiazke eks-prezydenta Cartera o tym
"apartheidzie" wlasnie.
> > > Na temat powiazan Cartera znalazlem na sieci cos ciekawego, acz

> > > niepotwierdzonego. Moze ktos z mieszkancow USA (pan Zalek na
przyklad)
> > > zechce potwierdzic albo zaprzeczyc?
> > > ____________
> > Byla szansa, aby mu zadac to pytanie publicznie:
> >
http://www.tpmcafe.com/blog/coffeehouse/2006/dec/17/jimmy_carter_isra...
> Nota bene w swojej ksiazce Carter wsrod swoich nanjblizszych przyjaciol
> wymienia Ezera Wizmana.

Moze i debata bylaby ciekawsza, jak niektorzy sugeruja i powiedzmy
sklad panelu moglby wygladac nastepujaco: Carter, Finkelstein,
Dershowitz, Shlomo Ben-Ami. No i oczywiscie Amy Goodman, jako referee
:-)))))


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 Post subject: Ksywiszon "Don Jose"...
PostPosted: 2006-12-20 03:51:23
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<levi...@gazeta.pl> wrote in message

news:1166568224.696591.201310@73g2000cwn.googlegroups.com...
> ... darl w grupie ryjka zza anonimowego nicka na nutke "w Izraelu
> panuje apartheid". Drac ryjka n/y "rasizmu" i
"apartheidu", powolywal
> sie na ksiazke eks-prezydenta Cartera o tym "apartheidzie"
wlasnie.
> Na temat powiazan Cartera znalazlem na sieci cos ciekawego, acz
> niepotwierdzonego. Moze ktos z mieszkancow USA (pan Zalek na przyklad)
> zechce potwierdzic albo zaprzeczyc?

no tak zalek , sprzedawca zlomu jest autorytetem i rzeczoznawca we
wszystkich sprawach , jego pytac nalezy , psia twoja mac!!!!


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 Post subject: Ksywiszon "Don Jose"...
PostPosted: 2006-12-20 03:59:32
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"DonJose" <DonJ...@aol.com> wrote in message

ote:
>> > ... darl w grupie ryjka zza anonimowego nicka na nutke "w
Izraelu
>> > panuje apartheid". Drac ryjka n/y "rasizmu" i
"apartheidu", powolywal
>> > sie na ksiazke eks-prezydenta Cartera o tym
"apartheidzie" wlasnie.
>> > Na temat powiazan Cartera znalazlem na sieci cos ciekawego, acz
>> > niepotwierdzonego. Moze ktos z mieszkancow USA (pan Zalek na
przyklad)
>> > zechce potwierdzic albo zaprzeczyc?
>> > ____________
>> Byla szansa, aby mu zadac to pytanie publicznie:
>>
http://www.tpmcafe.com/blog/coffeehouse/2006/dec/17/jimmy_carter_isra...
> Nota bene w swojej ksiazce Carter wsrod swoich nanjblizszych przyjaciol
> wymienia Ezera Wizmana.

co ty Jozek , dla Malca to nie zaden dowod,
mam przyjaciela Saula kiedys razem pracowalismy w radio, " unskiego"
czasu
wymienilem kiedys jego na liscie jako serdecznego przyjaciela a slawny wtedy
wiesio opieprzyl mnie ze kazdy takiego zyda trzyma w rekawie!!!!a niech to
szlag!!!


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 Post subject: Ksywiszon "Don Jose"...
PostPosted: 2006-12-20 12:43:30
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On 19 Dec 2006 14:43:44 -0800, levi...@gazeta.pl wrote:
- Hide quoted text -- Show quoted text ->... darl w grupie ryjka zza
anonimowego nicka na nutke "w Izraelu
>panuje apartheid". Drac ryjka n/y "rasizmu" i
"apartheidu", powolywal
>sie na ksiazke eks-prezydenta Cartera o tym "apartheidzie"
wlasnie.
>Na temat powiazan Cartera znalazlem na sieci cos ciekawego, acz
>niepotwierdzonego. Moze ktos z mieszkancow USA (pan Zalek na przyklad)
>zechce potwierdzic albo zaprzeczyc?
>____________
>"Especially lucrative have been Carter's ties to Saudi Arabia. Before

>his death in 2005, King Fahd was a longtime contributor to the Carter
>Center and on more than one occasion contributed million-dollar
>donations. In 1993 alone, the king presented Carter with a gift of $7.6
>million. And the king was not the only Saudi royal to commit funds to
>Carter's cause. As of 2005, the king's high-living nephew, Prince
>Alwaleed Bin Talal, has donated at least $5 million to the Carter
>Center.
>Meanwhile the Saudi Fund for Development, the kingdom's leading loan
>organization, turns up repeatedly on the center's list of supporters.
>Carter has also found moneyed allies in the Bin Laden family, and in
>2000 he secured a promise from ten of Osama bin Laden's brothers for
>a $1 million contribution to his center. To be sure, there is no
>evidence that the Bin Ladens maintain any contact with their terrorist
>relation. But applying Carter's own standard, his extensive contacts
>with the Saudi elite must make his views on the Middle East suspect.
>High praise for Carter's work - and not inconsiderable financial
>support - also comes from the United Arab Emirates. In 2001, Carter
>even traveled to the country to accept the Zayed International Prize
>for the Environment, named for Sheikh Zayed bin Sultan al-Nahyan, the
>late UAE potentate and former president-for-life. Having claimed his
>$500,000 purse, Carter enthused that the "award has special
>significance for me because it is named for my personal friend, Sheikh
>Zayed Bin Sultan al-Nahyan." Carter also hailed the UAE as an
>"almost completely open and free society" - a surreal depiction
>of a rigidly authoritarian country where the government handpicks a
>select group of citizens to vote and strictly controls the editorial
>content of the newspapers and where Islamic Shari'a courts judge
>"sodomy" punishable by death. (To appreciate the depth of
>Carter's cynicism, one need only compare his gushing encomia to the
>emirates with his likening of Israel, the most modern and democratic
>country in the entire Middle East, with the racist "apartheid"
of
>South Africa.) "
>____________
>http://www.me-ontarget.com/the_daily_tidbit/p,404/

Prezydent Carter ma jakas charytatywna organizacje - sam dosc czesto
dostaje od niego listy z prosba o pomoc, wiec calkiem mozliwe ze
dostaje on grube pieniadze od Arabow, a juz przeciez Rzymianie
zauwazyli ze "pecunia non colet" (jesli zrobilem misspelling,
dyrektor
Tomaszewski na pewno poprawi).
Natomiast jesli chodzi o porownaie Izraela do apartheidu to Carter
calkowicie  mial racje - Arabowie sie skarza ze we Francji nie maja
pelnych praw - to apartheid nie jest, w USA policja poluje sie na
Murzynow - i to apartheid nie jest, w Arabii Saudyjskiej Chrzescjanie
zadnych praw nie maja - i to apartheid nie jest, natomiast w Izraelu
zyja Zydzi, a wszystko co Zydzi robia jest faszyzmem, apartheidem i
komunizmem.
Zalek


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